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A Productive Conversation · 2025-05-28 · 34 min · 5,964 words

Alice Draper Talks About Rejection, Resilience, and Podcast Pitching

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Quick one first. There's a word we lost somewhere between the factory and the laptop. My new book is called Productiveness, and mikevardi.com slash productiveness is where you can get it. Okay, in we go. Hi, my name is Alice Draper, and I'm about to have a productive conversation with

Mike Body. Welcome to a productive conversation. I'm Mike Bardi. Today's guest is someone who's not only helping people get on top podcasts, but helping them reframe how they approach visibility and rejection all together. Alice Draper is the founder of Hustling Writers, a podcast guesting agency that's landed clients on shows in the top 0.1%.

She's also the host of My Rejection Story, a podcast that features bold and candid conversations with people like Neil Patel, Gay Hendricks, and more. In this conversation, we talk about the real cost of self-rejection, the link between imposter syndrome and identity, and how a well-crafted podcast pitch is actually an act of vulnerability. Alice also shares her thoughts on journaling, community, and why rejection should be something we aim for, not avoid. Let's dive into this powerful and practical conversation right now with Alice Draper. Alice, thanks so much for taking the time to join me today and have a productive conversation with me.

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