ReThinking · 2026-08-25 · 55 min · 9,308 words

Is emotional regulation always a good thing? with Julie Bowen and Aliza Pressman

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An organizational psychologist? Is that is that right? Guilty as charged. I'm very organized. I'm wondering if I have this skill set. You've come to the right place. I was gonna offer to rearrange your closet. That's I have a feeling that's not it. You don't label the snacks in the pantry.

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick. I'm an organizational psychologist. What is an organiz is it about what then? And I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking. Julie Bowen is an Emmy Award winning actress, best known from her roles as Claire on Modern Family and Happy Gilmore's Love Interest, Virginia. For this conversation with Julie, I have a co-host, one of our past guests, developmental psychologist Elisa Preston.

You might know her from her podcast Raising Good Humans. She's an expert on translating research into actionable info, and she's also related to Julie by marriage. Julia Lisa and I had an unusually delightful chat about authenticity, emotional intelligence, and parenting. But before she let us ask any questions, Julie wanted to understand what exactly I do. What is an organizational psychology? I could have been like a male Marie conduct. Yeah, that's that's what I thought. I thought, ooh, we're gonna talk about organizing our junk drawer, but do you wanna give me the one sentence that readers digest? So originally I thought my job was to make work not suck.

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