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In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · 2025-05-07 · 44 min · 7,667 words

Geoffrey Garrett: Modern Leadership, Business Education and Perspectives on Global Economy

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Hi everyone, I'm Nikola Tanjan, the CEO of the Norwegian Southern Wealth Fund, and today I'm in really great company with one of my favorite people, Jeff Garrett. Now, Jeff is the dean of the University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business, and has an incredible track record, and I know him from when he was the dean at the Wharton School. Actually, he was the first person I called when I got the job in the Norwegian Southern Wealth Fund to ask him, you know, what am I going to do? Also, Jeff has held very important roles at Oxford, Stanford and Yale. So Jeff, be welcome.

Hey Nikolai, it's great to be on with you. What's the number one skill a leader needs today? So, you know, I think the the world of leadership is changing a lot. You know, for me, maybe it's a bit glib, but I would say we used to think about leaders as heroes and now we need to think about leaders as humans. So I think my answer would be to be more human.

Can it be taught? Classic business school question. The my classic answer to that is it might, you might not be able to teach leadership, but our students can certainly learn to be leaders. And I think that means that leadership education has to be very experiential. What does that mean?

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