#52 - AI Teachers, Deskless Workforce & The Passion Economy with Zak Kukoff

Yesterday we asked people to do a thing. To do a thing. We asked we told them that we would send them a Like a gift? I don't know what we said. Oh, I know. They could ask any question they wanted to ask and me and Sean would answer it. We'll do a Q and A. And in exchange they had to subscribe, unsubscribe, and subscribe again. We're trying to game the podcast ranking system. We're willing to have our our real listeners kinda click farm it, but we're not just being you know, paying somebody in the Philippines to do it. That's our line. I'm down to do it. No, I'll do that. Okay, well so far that's been our line. Um we dropped the Stu episode Today. Uh people are liking that. Dude, Christians everywhere are are hitting me up. Oh yeah.

The C of Prey reached out. I was like, Hey dude we've been Tom Hobbits, dude.'Cause we've been we've been talking about religious stuff for like two or three it's been a theme across a couple episodes and we went super deep on it. I don't know if you listen to the one with Stu. And uh so a bunch of people who were like church tech, bunch of church tech entrepreneurs reached out. I had a rabbi email me really about this podcast. Um I also had another guy email me saying I'm out of a job and Stu's gonna replace me and for the record, I'm great with that. Uh I'm totally fine with that. Okay, so we have a guest here. Or an early stage enterprise SaaS fund known for investing in Salesforce box. Yammer, Zoom, Viva, Gusto, et cetera, et cetera. Um it's a pretty cool job so I get to meet with some of the most interesting people in the world all the time. I get to be the dumbest guy in the room, although

We'll see after this room at the end of the podcast how I'm feeling on that. Yeah, you should be the smart guy here. So all my bad jokes at the end. Just keep the good jokes in, get rid of the bad jokes. So that portfolio is pretty badass. You said Salesforce, Zoom, Yammer, blah, blah, blah. Are those like You guys get in that s series D and you just get the logo? Or did you like actually invest before it was obvious? I predominantly invest in series A. Uh we do about eighty five percent series A, fifteen percent series B. Zoom we're the largest investor of Viva, we were the only uh Viva Systems was a pharmaceutical R and D still is a pharmaceutical R D. Yeah, it's a huge I mean think about for a second, like you know, ten years ago, right? Nobody was thinking about vertical SAS as an investable category. Everybody the conventional wisdom was, Oh, SAS is a small category, but sort of if you go horizontal across thirty different industries, maybe there's enough investigable space there. And Viva was the first multi billion dollar

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