Does Consciousness Break the Laws of Physics?

Hey everybody, it's Michael Shermer, time for another episode of the Michael Shermer Show in person at the How the Like Gets In Festival in Wales. My guest today is Dr. Av Shalom Elitzer. He's an Israeli physicist and philosopher, widely regarded as a singular intellectual force in the foundations of reality. We're interested in reality.

Having left school at age 16 to work as a laboratory technician, he went on to present an unpublished paper on quantum mechanics at Temple University, an invitation that led uh uh to uh Tel Aviv University and to pursue his doctoral research. Today he's a senior lecturer at the Israeli Institute for Advanced Research and a presidential fellow or visiting scholar at Chapman University where I taught for twelve years. So we have a we have a small world. We were together, you reminded me, I completely forgot about this.

We were together in Cortona, Italy, And then another time, w Rome, was that a different one? We hiked. I just I just when we left Cortona we went to Rome and you you made me exhausted because we were in some in the Vatican in some church and you insisted on going on the stairs and I had to r follow you, uh losing my breath, but then we were up there and saw all of Rome. I know, I know.

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