Learning to Think Like Someone Else (with David Marquet)

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We'd love to hear from you. Today is July 17th, 2025, and before introducing today's guest, I want to mention that we will be doing an Econ Talk Book Club in two weeks, an episode on Ernest Hemingway's novel of the Spanish Civil War, For Whom the Bell Tolls. I encourage you to read the book before that episode airs. I'll be talking with Hemingway scholar David Wyatt about the book, fascism versus communism, Hemingway's passion for grace under pressure, his literary reputation, many other things.

So, uh If you'd like to read the book in advance, uh, please do so. It'll air again in about two weeks. Now, on to today's guest, author, consultant, and former submarine commander David Marquet. His latest book, co-authored with Michael Gillespie, is Distancing, How Great Leaders Reframe to Make Better Decisions.

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