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Big Technology Podcast · 2026-04-15 · 58 min · 10,529 words

The Pentagon's AI Plan + Behind the Anthropic Fight — With Under Secretary of War Emil Michael

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I worry about other countries using AI to take humans out of the decision-making progress. They don't trust their generals. If you were so close to being willing to work with them, then how could they end up being a supply chain response? It's just we don't want them in our supply chain. We don't want to use them.

President decided that he doesn't want the government to use them. If I went back to my office right now, it's like, how how would I order a pizza from outside to be delivered in? I'd have no idea. So you're not a believer in the Pentagon Pizza Index? I am not a believer in the Pentagon Pizza Index.

We're here at the Pentagon because the AI story that we talk about on this show has escalated quickly, very quickly, into a core national security issue. And you saw that, of course, when the Pentagon banned Anthropic earlier this year. So let's talk about it with Under Secretary of War Emil Michael and speak with him about how AI might change the future of warfare and how it might already be doing so. Mr.

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