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ReThinking · 2026-07-14 · 36 min · 7,321 words

How to prevent corporate corruption with Eric Ries

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People think the worst thing that can happen to you is your business fails. Oh no. It could be so much worse than that. We're actually a wash in corruption all around us. And I think It's important that we See a pathway out of that trap.

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick. I'm an organizational psychologist. and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking. Eric Reest is an entrepreneur and author.

He's best known for his best selling book, The Lean Startup, about how founders learn rapidly and innovate continuously. He's dedicated his career to helping businesses succeed and do the right thing. Following that line of thinking, Eric made headlines for creating the long-term stock exchange in 2015. Just like the New York Stock Exchange, you can trade cash, shares, and equities. But the long-term stock exchange was designed to help companies resist short-term market pressures and focus on their future growth and impact instead.

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