The Good Fight Club: Why Japan’s “Weirdo” Victory Matters, the Rise of Chinese Soft Power, and the End

You know, it's not something that a single president is gonna be able to reverse, say, in 2028. You know, once once the the rose-colored glasses are shattered, it it it's hard to kind of rebuild that. So I think that, you know, we gotta say goodbye to to that era. Um, and I felt I really felt that this year. And now the good fight.

with Yasha Monk. Welcome to the fifteenth edition of the Good Fight Club and the second Good Fight Club of the year. We had a really great episode about Europe at the end of last year and I thought it would be really interesting, despite the continent being much larger and in some ways much more complex than Europe to try and do something similar about Asia and so I invited the three people I most enjoy talking about various parts of the Asian continent with onto the podcast. We have Pratap Panumeta, who teaches politics at Princeton and is also based at the Center for Policy Research in New Delhi.

Welcome back to the podcast, Pratap. We have Bethany Allen, who is the head of China investigations at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute and somebody who knows China very well. Welcome Bethany. And we have Chiang Chu, who is based in Tokyo, fluent in Japanese and in Chinese, and who writes uh extensively about China for the New Yorker and The Guardian and other publications. Welcome to the podcast Chang.

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