Best Of: Tony Fadell’s Guide to Building Products, Startups and Careers

The other day, Caleb and I sat down with David Pogue. The tech guy. You may have read his New York Times column back in the day or seen him on CBS Sunday morning. He's got a new book out called Apple, The First 50 Years. It's a meticulously reported and lavishly illustrated chronicle of, let's face it, the greatest company ever.

Here's a little taste. I don't know how the next big idea thinks about four-letter words, but have that. When they come from Steve Jobs, we feel good about them. He called me that night and the secretary comes on, the assistant says, like, I have Steve on the line. Can you take the call?

Sure. He goes, you don't have any idea what the f<unk> we do here at Apple do. We're going to be posting that episode on Monday, but in the meantime, to get you in the mood, we thought we'd reshare one of our personal favorites, our conversation with the legendary entrepreneur, Tony Fidel. Tony led the teams that created the iPod, the iPhone, and we had him on the show to discuss his book, Build, an unorthodox guide, to making things worth making.

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