#51 Celeste Headlee: The Dying Art of Conversation

Listening is really hard. I'm not saying that to make you feel better, although I hope it does make you feel better. It's not hard because of our smartphones. It's not hard because we're distracted. It's hard because human beings, these the species Homo sapiens Does not listen well. Evolutionarily

We don't really need to. Hello and welcome. I'm Shane Parish and this is another episode of The Knowledge Project, a podcast exploring the ideas, methods, and mental models that help you learn from the best of what other people have already figured out. You can learn more and stay up to date at fs.blog slash podcast. On the show today is Celeste Tedley, who is a journalist, opera singer, and writer. He's well known for her TED Talks about the need to improve the face-to-face conversation. Celeste has worked in public radio for nearly two decades as a reporter and host. She's known for her ability to have great conversations, and this is no letdown. This interview is all about the art of conversation.

It's time to listen and learn. Celeste welcome to the Knowledge Project. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me. I'm super excited to talk to you today. I'm also a little nervous. I mean, you are a professional at conversations and this is kind of Disconcerting.

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