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Intelligence Squared · 2025-08-07 · 36 min · 5,855 words

Did the Road to Trump Start in the 90’s? with John Ganz

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared where great minds meet. I'm head of programming, Connor Boyle. Many people today seem nostalgic for the 1990s, and even at the time, many people thought it was the beginning of a new era. With the fall of the Berlin Wall and the election of Bill Clinton, Americans of the 90s were ready for a kinder, gentler America. But how exactly?

Did the events of the 1990s lay the groundwork for our current political landscape? In today's episode, we're joined by journalist and author John Gantz. Gantz spoke to journalist Atosa Araxia Abrahamian about his thesis that the 1990s reshaped American politics and identity and led to the rise of a new America, one that birthed the MAGA movement and Donald Trump era of today. Let's join Atosa now with more. Welcome to Intelligence Squared.

I'm Atusa Araxia Abrahamian. Our guest today is John Gans. John Gans is the author of the widely acclaimed unpopular front newsletter for Substack and writes a monthly column for The Nation. His work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The New Republic, The New Statesman, and many other publications. Today we're discussing his latest book, When the Clock Broke, Con Men,

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