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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge · 2026-04-23 · 66 min · 8,684 words

Richard Schwartz and Tamala Floyd: Healing Across Generations: IFS + Ancestral Wisdom

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The Sounds True Podcast Network. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, I'm joined by Dick Schwartz, someone I'm honored to call a friend. the founder of Internal Family Systems, and Tomala Floyd, a psychotherapist and the first ever black individual to become a certified IFS lead trainer and the author of Listening When Parts Speak. They join together here for a dialogue on the ways that IFS and ancestral wisdom intersect to heal intergenerational trauma. Welcome friends.

Stay with us. It was about a decade ago when I first heard this teaching from the famous management philosopher, Peter Drucker. The most important thing for an executive to learn is not how to manage other people. It's to learn how to manage yourself.

I heard this quote from Jeremy Hunter, who's been voted Professor of the Year eight times by his graduating class at the Drucker School of Management. Now he's teaching self-management as part of Sounds True's inner MBA program, leading modules on regulating your nervous system at work. dealing with triggers, recovering from burnout, and more. Created in collaboration with the Greater Good Science Center at UC Berkeley, the Inner MBA is a six-month program beginning at the end of October that teaches you what Jeremy Hunter calls not the hard skills, but the hardest skills, how to relate to ourselves and others with presence on purpose.

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