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Krishna Rao - Anthropic's CFO on Compute, Scaling to $30B ARR, and the Returns to Frontier Intelligence - [Invest Like the Best, EP.472]

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And welcome everyone. I'm Patrick O'Shaughnessy and this is Invest Like the Best. This show is an open ended exploration of markets, ideas, stories, and strategies that will help you better invest both your time and your money. If you enjoy these conversations and want to go deeper. Check out Colossus, our quarterly publication with in-depth profiles of the people shaping business and investing. You can find Colossus along with all of our podcasts at Colossus.com. Trick O'Shaughnessy is the CEO of Pastive Sum.

All opinions expressed by Patrick and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of Positive Sum. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Clients of Positive Sum may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast. To learn more, Visit PSUM dot VC Mm. My guest today is Krishna Rao, the CFO of Anthropic. The center of our conversation is how he navigates the decision around procuring and allocating compute. Which she describes as the canvas on which everything else gets built.

We talk about what he calls the cone of uncertainty, the three chip platforms Anthropic uses fungibly across training, TPUs, and GPUs. And the daily meetings they run to allocate compute between model development, internal use, and serving customer demand. He explains where the returns to frontier intelligence keep getting higher. Especially in enterprise. And how Anthropic thinks about the line between platform and application.

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