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Intelligence Squared · 2026-09-28 · 35 min · 5,909 words

The CIA vs MI6: Allies or Rivals? With David McCloskey

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared. Where great minds meet. I'm senior producer Margretta Valpato. In today's episode, Carl Miller is joined by Sunday Times best-selling author and co-host of the Rest is Classified Podcast. David McCloskey.

The question at the heart of today's conversation is What if the CIA and MI6 began spying on each other? What would this mean for the special relationship between the agency and and its British counterpart. From a potential technological revolution upending intelligence tradecraft to navigating a new environment where old friends become adversaries.

McCloskey and Miller discussed the scenarios that inspired the former's latest thriller. London Station. Let's join our host Carl Miller now with more. So, London Station, let's start with the the what if that lurks throughout the whole book, David. What if

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