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ReThinking · 2025-03-11 · 38 min · 6,545 words

The voices in your head with Ethan Kross

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I don't have control. over those thoughts that bubble up from time to time. What I do have control over Is how I engage with those responses. Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking. My podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the TED Audio Collective.

I'm an organizational psychologist. And I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people. to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking. My guest today is Ethan Cross, a psychologist and neuroscientist at the University of Michigan. His first book, Chatter, was a bestseller on how we talk to ourselves. He delves into how to harness our inner voice and overcome what's been called monkey mind. You know, jumping from thought to thought, like monkeys jumping from one tree branch to another.

Now Ethan's new book, Shift. is about another vital aspect of our inner life. Emotion Regulation. and he doesn't shy away from challenging conventional wisdom. There's research on this, which shows that in some cases, avoiding your emotional experiences can actually be a tool that helps you cope.

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