470: Don't Get Caught In The Crossfire in The Information War. With Jeremy Stern.

This is Jocko podcast number 470 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. The shocking attack in southern Israel this weekend was the most deadly killing of Jews since the Holocaust. The death toll is worse than the worst day of the Yom Kippur War.

It is a massacre that will transform Israel and the Middle East. The scenes of horror and bloodshed that resulted, including the murders of entire families, the kidnapping of small children, the rapes of young women, were seemingly intended to cause maximum anger and shock inside Israel. More than 150 people were seized by terrorists and taken back into Gaza, where they are being held hostage. They include women, very young children, and the elderly. In the cruel logic of the region where Israel is located and has been located for several thousand years, Hamas's killing spree was not a repulsive example of the depths of human barbarism.

Instead, it was considered a huge win and shredded Israel's vaunted military deterrence. And those right there are some excerpts, obviously written after the October 7th attacks, in an article written by Alana Newhouse and Jeremy Stern for Tablet magazine. Alana Newhouse is the editor-in-chief of that magazine and Jeremy Stern serves as the deputy editor. And Jeremy had an interesting path through that position, serving in the Army as an EOD officer, working for the State Department, and eventually becoming a journalist. And it's a privilege to have him here with us tonight to share his experiences.

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