Huberman Lab · 2025-12-22 · 234 min · 44,848 words

Transform Pain & Trauma Into Creative Expression | David Choe

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I'm a severe gambling addict. Every single addiction is gambling addiction. If you drink and drive, you're gambling. Addiction is one of those things you can't apply logic to. People go, what are you running from, Dave?

And I was like, well, I'm fucking running for myself, dude. I don't want to look in the mirror. I don't want to see myself. I I hate myself. So I'm just running.

So as long as I'm like doing graffiti, running from the police, you know, just, just, just. Hopping on a train, like, like literal running, like literally running to make sure I'm never sit still for one second, like, what are you doing, Dave? I'm playing drums in a band, I'm f<unk>ing, you know, uh at a casino, I'm traveling, doing the news for vice, I'm painting at this, like I I can't look I can't sit still because that means I have to sit with myself and I I can't do that. I can't do that. I couldn't do that.

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