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ReThinking · 2026-03-03 · 37 min · 6,366 words

Esther Perel on the relationship baggage we bring to work

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This tension is inherent. It's intrinsic. Every relationship straddles. How do I stay connected to myself without losing you? And how do I connect with you without losing me?

This is core. Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick. I'm an organizational psychologist. and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

Esther Perrell is a leading psychotherapist who focuses on personal and professional relationships. You might know Estera from her books or her fascinating podcast, Where Should We Begin? Today, I wanted to talk with her about the hidden influence of relationships, including her concept of the unofficial resume. which includes all the connections that have shaped us and affect how we show up at work and in life. This conversation is extra special because my own relationship with Estera has had a big impact on me.

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