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HBR IdeaCast · 2026-06-16 · 21 min · 3,495 words

The Right Way to Manage Rule Breakers

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Hello everyone, I'm Michael Gill, and you've tuned in to the Harvard Business Review Idea Cast. Don't worry. I have Alice and Beard with me here as well. Everyone But

We wanted to switch things up a bit today, because I recently contributed to an HBR article about rule breaking in organizations and how leaders can manage it. And so, while Adi and I typically introduce all of our episodes, our producer Mary agreed to let Michael bend the rules in this instance. But Michael, how should I deal with this rule breaking of yours? Well One of the main findings of my research is that when it comes to dealing with rule breakers, the first thing to do is really understand the motivation behind the behavior. And for me

It was to prove that rule breaking isn't always a bad thing. In this case. it maybe got listeners more interested in the topic. I certainly hope so, and I want to dig into that and much more. But first let me properly introduce you. Michael is an associate professor at the University of Oxford Study Business School, and his research, a synthesis of more than 250 studies across four decades, was featured in the HBR article, How the Best Leaders Respond to Rulebreaking.

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