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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge · 2025-06-10 · 74 min · 12,441 words

Michelle Cassandra Johnson and Amy Burtaine: The Wisdom of the Hive

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Maybe the bees are here to save us. As opposed to this campaign that we have to work hard to save the bees, what if we acted with them and like them in more gentle, holistic, life-giving ways? When I think about an indicator species, really, you know, the lesson obviously is for us. They're showing us what we need to shift. In this episode of Insights at

the edge. My guests are Michelle, Cassandra Johnson and Amy Bertane. They are two dear friends who are also bee lovers and together they have co-written a new book. It's called The Wisdom of the Hive, What Honeybees Can Teach Us about Collective Well-being. Let me tell you a little bit more about Michelle Cassandra Johnson.

This is her sixth book. She is a wisdom teacher, an activist, a racial equity consultant, an educator, and an intuitive and shamanic healer. Amy Bertane is an anti-racist trainer who has co-authored a book with Robin DeAngelo on facilitating white affinity spaces as an anti-racist practice. She is a teaching artist who lived with two beehives.

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