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The Next Big Idea · 2026-05-21 · 51 min · 10,432 words

When Will AI Empty Your Dishwasher? (with Nicholas Thompson)

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What is my Pedium? I'd say 25%. What's yours, Nick? One? I don't know.

Yay. Rufus, that was the most unconvincing yay anyone has ever delivered. I'm Rufus Grisscomb. And I'm Caleb Bissinger. And this is the next big idea.

Today, Nick Thompson on the future of AI, journalism, and robots that can empty your dishwasher. The way Nick Thompson sees it, there are two races happening in AI right now, the vertical and the horizontal. And the vertical race is the race to infinity. A handful of companies, Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, you know the ones, are spending hundreds of billions of dollars in a breakneck race to build superintelligence, whether we like it or not. And then there's a horizontal race.

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