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This Week in Startups · 2025-10-30 · 99 min · 19,284 words

Grammarly is now Superhuman! CEO Shishir Mehrotra explains the rebrand | E2201

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All right, I want to bring up something else, Jason, that's a little bit off from where we just were on the energy side of things and instead talk about humans. There's been a theme on the show for ever since I got here that companies are either not hiring or reducing their team sizes. And so when we think about taking care of employees, we don't talk about attrition that much. It's just not the thing we're kind of tuning for, I think, as an industry.

But uh our friends over at 37 Signals, DHH and Jason Freed, uh, are talking today quite a lot about their use of sabbaticals. This is a six-week break for workers in their third year at the company as part of their overall kind of like kind setup for their staff, including four-day work weeks from uh May through September. And This struck me as just out of the blue because we're talking about laying off 14,000 people at Amazon, not trying to keep people. So one, are you in favor of sabbaticals of this type?

And two, uh, are they just drinking different Kool-Aid than everyone else? So they are a highly profitable uh software company that has existed for a long time with a loyal base of users and it is um pretty reliable. uh that those revenue streams people who use basecam they just love it they're never going to stop using it okay period full stop so when you start a company and you don't have a bunch of investors which they don't I think they bought out Bezos who was a their only investor uh back in the day they can build the world they want to live in. Now you remember they had a whole um DEI woke thing happen at their company where people wanted to bring all their opinions to work and debate it on Slack, just like at Coinbase, and we had this sort of pendulum swing the other way.

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