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Pivot · 2026-11-08 · 77 min · 13,440 words

Stephen Miller’s Promotion, Big Tech’s Reality Check, and Guest Harvey Levin

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Hi, everyone, live from the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. And I'm Scott Galloway. All right. Before we start, I'm gonna thank our sponsors. Our title sponsor is Beehive, the platform for building an audience at a business around your point of view. We just started the pivot post there. We love Beehive. From newsletters and websites to podcasts and communities, Beehive brings all your content all together in one place. It's the only one of these platforms I would have been on and proud to be on. Thanks also to our official sponsors, Tanium and Odoo. All right, we're gonna start off with our guests, which we did in Minnesota with with Senator uh Klobichar, who's now Governor Klobichar. Um but today

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