What Every Credible Leader Has in Common

even on the parts of your role that you don't love, you have to get to a threshold of competence. Or the incompetence in the parts of your job that you don't love will cause you to lose credibility for your whole job. Hey, it's great to have you back for another episode of the Craig Rochelle Leadership Podcast. And I'm going to tell you what, you're going to enjoy this interview. Before we dive in today, uh wanna tell you if you're new, we drop a uh brand new teaching on the first Thursday of every month. And if you go to CGLP.com, you can get the leader guide. Our team goes uh puts a lot of effort into creating a guide that will help you uh with

questions and additional content that you can go over with your team. Go to CGLP.com to find the information. And uh today's guest is a very good friend of mine. Uh not only is he a pastor, but he's been a significant business leader. Pastor Eric Geiger is a senior pastor of Mariners Church in Southern California. Over 250 staff members Twenty five thousand people in attendance with uh twelve going on fourteen different locations. Before that, Eric was the uh chief business officer and senior vice president of Lifeway with over five hundred million dollars a year in annual revenue. That's quite a variety of leadership experience from five hundred million dollars in a for profit business to now running a big church. Eric, welcome to the podcast. That means the most important thing. Well you are in fact um the reason I'm excited about this interview is because when we get together I fight for air time to ask you questions because I always walk away. Every single time with um significant value from our our talks about leadership, church, family, the whole deal. Man, that means a ton, but I gotta I gotta tell you the truth about one of the times we first sat down, we were at this conference and

You and Amy, your wife were uh sitting in a different part from where Kay, my wife and I were and I told Kay, I said, Baby, I'm gonna go try to talk to Craig. And uh she said why why why why is it a big deal? I said, I have always wanted to sit down and ask him. I had like five or six questions I wanted to ask you. And so she's like Go go do it. Go do it. I was nervous and but I went and you were so kind. We sat down. You gave me a lot more time than I thought you would.

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