1408: Patric Gagne | How a "Sociopath" Decides Right from Wrong
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Coming up next on the Jordan Harbinger Show. I can show you volumes of research that indicates that punishment in general is not effective. But it is particularly ineffective when you're dealing with a child or an adult who is psychopathic. The way that they learn.
Is Not through punishment. And that's really important because newsflash If you punish a psychopath for behaving in a certain way, they're just gonna figure out a different way to do it.
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