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Masters of Scale · 2026-11-05 · 29 min · 5,528 words

Demis Hassabis says society is “not ready” for the AI future

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The human's very much still in the loop and the next phase which I think carries the most risk is closed RSI, closed loop, without the human reviewer process. And that will obviously be faster, but I think is also a very dangerous way to get to full AGI. I do think there are some things that generally all the leaning labs do agree on, like the idea of third party auditors or evaluators coming in, obviously there's a question mark which third parties and I think we need a healthy kind of ecosystem of that you could have good startups and companies doing that, there's enough revenue there for them given the amount of investment going into AI as a whole. This is Masters of Scale. I'm Jeff Berman, your host. In today's episode, our very own Reed Hoffman sits down with the incredible Demis Asavis. Demis is the co-founder and chair of Google DeepMind and chief scientist of Alphabet.

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