What hibernating animals can teach us about human sleep with Vladyslav Vyazovskiy

So it's very likely that rather than animals Evolved to hibernate. Probably most of our ancestors actually hibernated in some forms and some of them lost in the course of evolution, because it's such a clever strategy. I actually think almost a like a default state of being. Maybe we we forgot how to do it because we we learn how to build houses, right? And and have central heating. Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking.

My podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the TED Audio Collective. I'm an organizational psychologist. And I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people. to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking. My guest today is Vladislav Vasovsky.

He's a sleep physiologist at Oxford, where he studies why we sleep and how animals hibernate. His work has made me question many of my basic assumptions about slumber. And I bet it's gonna have the same effect on you. We love metaphors when we talk about sleep. And this is exactly because we don't understand it. It's why we talk about this sleep depth and nobody knows what deep sleep is. Today, Vladislav and I are wide awake to discuss the science of sleep and an idea that I find fascinating.

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