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#126: Larry Ellison (The Billionaire and the Mechanic)

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I'm talking about greatness. About taking a lever to the world and moving it, Larry said. Walking the grounds of his new woodside property with his best friend Steve Jobs. I'm not talking about moral perfection. I'm talking about people who change the world the most.

During their lifetime. Jobs who had returned to Apple three years earlier. Enjoy the conversational volleying and place Leonardo da Vinci and Gandhi in as his top choices. with Gandhi in the lead.

Leonardo, a great artist and inventor, lived in violent times, and was a designer of tanks, battlements, ramparts, and an assortment of other military tools and castle fortifications. Jobs cited Gandhi's doctrine of nonviolent revolution as an example of how it was possible to remain morally pure. while aggressively pursuing change. Larry's choice for history's greatest person could not have been more different than Gandhi. The military leader Napoleon Bonaparte.

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