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Sinica Podcast · 2025-06-04 · 64 min · 11,680 words

Seeking the Next DeepSeek: the Chinese Generative AI Algorithm Registry, with Kendra Schaefer

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Welcome to the Seneca Podcast, the weekly discussion of current affairs in China. In this program, we'll look at books, ideas, new research, intellectual currents, and cultural trends that can help us better understand what's happening in China's politics, foreign relations, economics, and society. Join me each week for in depth conversations that shed more light and bring less heat to how we think and talk about China. I'm Kaiser Guo, coming to you from my home in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Seneca is supported this year by the Center for East Asian Studies at the University of Wisconsin Madison, a national resource center for the study of East Asia.

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It's going to be again the three of us, Andrew Polk and and Eric Olander and myself. This week on Seneca, I am thrilled to welcome back one of the smartest, clearest-eyed analysts of tech in China, Kendra Schaefer, head of tech policy research at Trivium China. Those of you who follow the show know that Seneca has been partnering quite closely with the team at Trivium. And today we get to showcase one of their standout pieces of recent work from one of their standout analysts. In January of this year, an AI startup called Deep Seek, of course, stunned the world by dropping a highly capable large language model that rivaled top-tier Western offerings.

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