Is Your Phone Controlling Your Life? With Kaitlyn Regehr (Part Two)

Welcome to Intelligence Squared where great minds meet. I'm head of programming Connor Boyle. Today's episode is part two of our recent live event in London's Kiln Theatre with academic and expert on the cultural and social impacts of smartphones and social media, Caitlin Reguer. If you haven't yet heard part one of the conversation, just skip back an episode and get up to speed. Roguer was joined in conversation by researcher and host of the hit podcast Killlist, Carl Miller, to discuss solutions to the unregulated world of screens and social media.

Let's rejoin our host, Carl Miller now, with more. So obviously a lot of the problem solving we've been talking about today is very much about the individual, isn't it? Yeah. You know, and that in a in a way is is a kind of failing. Because, you know, what that does is it kind of wrongly suggests that all every the whole burden for being safe online falls entirely to the individual, which as you make out at the very beginning is not the regulatory posture that we have with basically anything else that exists.

So just for context for those that that might not be fully immersed in the world of digital regulation, um, the Online Safety Act was was enacted recently, moving us into this whole new kind of world. where for the first time platforms had legally instituted responsibilities for the kinds of things that they can do. So Caitlin, you've you've alluded to this, but let let's make the allegations explicit and clear. You don't think the act is enough, do you? No.

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