The Backwards Law: Why More Self-Improvement Might Be Making Things Worse (with Mark Manson)

Quick one first. There's a word we lost somewhere between the factory and the laptop. My new book is called Productiveness, and mikevardi.com slash productiveness is where you can get it. Okay, in we go. Mark Manson, thanks so much for taking the time to join me today.

I really do appreciate it. Amazing. Thank you for having me. So first off, one of the things that I wanted to get uh get out the question I wanted to ask right out of the gate was Tim Ferris posted, I think this past week, a piece on um the self-help trap, like the optimization piece. I'm sure you probably took it that took had a chance to read it.

And it it reminded me about the profile piece that you had a number of years ago, I think when uh I can't remember which magazine it was in. I want to get your thoughts on on that because it's not like Tim is the only one that's been circling this. There's several of people in this space that have been circling it. Would you, would you care to kind of lean into this a little bit and share maybe what what your thoughts are around where we're at in this particular era right now? Sure.

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