#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future

Hello, boys and girls, ladies and gents. This is Tim Ferris. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferris Show, where it is my job to deconstruct world class performers to tease out the thought processes, the best practices, the influences, and so on that you can hopefully copy and paste into your own life in some fashion to test out the toolkits. of people who are the best at what they do. My guest this episode is a return guest. Josh Waitskin. He was in fact the second ever guest in episode two of this podcast. We've known each other a long time. Josh Waitskin is author of The Art of Learning. He is an eight time US national chess champion, a two time world champion Tai Chi push hands. And the first Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under nine time world champion Marcelo Garcia, widely believed to be the greatest scrappler who has ever lived, at least in the world of BJJ. For the past twelve years, maybe thirteen, maybe fourteen now, Josh has been channeling his passion for the outer limits of the learning process. towards training elite mental performers in business and finance, or finance if you prefer, and to revolutionizing the education system through his nonprofit foundation, The Art of Learning Project.

Josh is currently in the process of taking on his fourth and fifth disciplines, paddle surfing and foiling. Josh is always a fantastic thought partner. He is constantly pushing back at anything that I say which reflec sloppy thinking or imprecise thinking or consensus thinking. And he's a lovely guy. So please enjoy this wide ranging conversation with none other than Josh. Wait. This episode is brought to you by Tonal T O N A L. I'm super excited about this one.

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