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The McKinsey Podcast · 2026-10-15 · 22 min · 3,697 words

Place, purpose, and the path to economic mobility

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You're seeing a big movement towards skills-based hiring. How do we think about that to really broaden who we can bring into the workforce and into what roles? Things like paid training, apprenticeships. Things that will be able to help people to again take on opportunities that might not otherwise immediately seem available to them. That's McKinsey's senior partner, Diana Ellsworth. She's talking about how business leaders can redesign their policies and their programs to draw fresh talent to their organizations. She joins me and McKinsey partner JP Julian to talk about a recent survey conducted by McKinsey's Institute for Economic Mobility. That survey provides a really interesting snapshot of what a better life could look like.

For most Americans. This is the McKinsey podcast, where we help you make sense out of the world's toughest business challenges. I'm Roberta Fasaro, your host for today. JP Thanks so much for joining the podcast today.

Thanks for having me. And Diana, it's great to see you and I'm glad you could join as well. Thanks for joining. Absolutely delighted to be here. Americans have more in common than today's public discourse would suggest. Here's what Miguel

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