When Rationality Becomes Irrational

You're listening to the Michael Shermer Show. Barry, nice to see you. Thanks for coming on to talk to me. Thank you so much for having me, Michael. I'm excited.

It's a good book. I read it very carefully because I'm I uh I write a a bit in this area. And uh your work is was highly influential in my 2008 book, um, The Mind of the Market, which was really on evolutionary economics, behavioral economics, and all that stuff. And yes, you know, I've been steeped in, you know, the whole this whole paradigm that you were one of the pioneers of. So I was amazed to get your book saying, well, we need to rethink some of this.

I'm about, uh-oh. So uh But, you know, just give us a little um uh, I guess, biography or or what's your journey, what's your story, how did you you're a little slightly older than me, so you must have come of age as behaviorism was giving way to cognitive psychology, and so you sort of saw that revolution, and I'm wondering if you think we're in the middle of another one going in a different direction now. Well, I you you've got me pegged. I I actually grew up as a skinarian.

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