Energy Management: What Johnny Carson Knew About Saying No with Mark Malkoff

All right. Johnny Carson would have turned a hundred this past fall, and for thirty years he was the most watched man in late night. And then at number one, he walked away and went quiet for the rest of his life. My guest spent eight years and almost four hundred interviews trying to understand

how a person does both those things. Mark Malkoff is back. And back is the right word because the last time he was on, it was twenty twelve. He was on episode Two, and he was the guy making viral creative stunt videos. His new book written with the biographer David Ritz is Love.

Johnny Carson. Mark, welcome back. Eric, it's so good to see you. It's been a while, yeah. It has. I I man, I remember last time I I just love that you're in New York City. In fact you're the second New York City person in the past couple of days that I've recorded with. So it's been awesome. But

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