#1332 Cara Ocobock: Trans People in Sports

Hello, everyone, welcome to a new episode of The Decenter. I'm your host, as always, Ricardo Lopes, and today I'm joined by a return guest, Dr. Carol Okabok. She's associate professor and director of the human energetics lab at the University of Notre Dame, and today we're going to talk about Trans women in women's sports because I mean apparently that's a topic people have to talk about now. So you know, but We ignore trans men entirely, but you know. Yeah, and no, but uh I I mean

Putting the jokes aside, uh I I mean this this is really I mean, particularly what the Olympic committee decided uh decided a few months ago. I mean it's It's just pure BS, but I guess we're going to address that in a bit, but Before we get into The sports bit directly Why would you say it's important not just when it comes to this topic, but also

uh I don't know, anthropology more broadly to distinguish between sex and gender. Yeah, it that's an excellent question and a and a good place to start off. And we we might even just discuss too of how one defines sex and the the different variables that go into it at some point. Uh but as I tell my students, so Sex, however, we are specifically defining biological sex is your biological makeup. And I'm not necessarily a sex as a spectrum person. I kinda like the idea of sex's multimodal with multiple different inputs and each input could have its own kind of sliding spectrum from one edge to the other. Uh that is the biological makeup and everybody is a little bit different.

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