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Intelligence Squared · 2026-08-01 · 38 min · 6,609 words

What Everyone Gets Wrong About Iran, with Clarissa Ward and Lyse Doucet (Part Two)

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Welcome to Intelligence Square, where great minds meet. I'm senior producer Mia Sorrenti. In this episode we return for part two of our recent live event with CNN's chief international correspondent Clarissa Ward. Ward joined us recently at Conway Hall to discuss the human cost of war and a rapidly changing world order. She was in conversation with

BBC Chief International Correspondent Lise Dousset. If you haven't heard part one, we recommend jumping back an episode to catch up. But now let's return to the conversation live at Conway Hall. If we just rise up a bit above um above the the specifics of this war. One of the last times we worked together was in Afghanistan, which was another war that was a debacle for the United States.

How many in the audio people in the audience are American passport holders? Just so we don't, we want to want to. Yeah, okay, number of you. People are now looking at this, Clarissa, at on a on a broader thing, at it to be uh To be blunt about, they say another war that Amer that the great American military has lost.

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