The World in 2025 with Robert Kaplan: Finding A Way Through Permanent Crisis (Part Two)

Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorrenti. Today's episode is part two of our recent live event with Robert Kaplan for the World in 2025 series. If you haven't heard part one, do just jump back an episode and get up to speed. I mean a S share your your um perspective and and an in insight as it were into the the the the the change of the nature of of the last four

Chinese leaders but but when when you look at Xi Jinping's China, even as it is, as you say, increasingly a state that is is that the whose whose organizers are sort of trying to run by the precepts of a of of Marxist Leninism, nonetheless it is also Um uh taking revolutionary steps in technology. It may be the first electric state, effectively, quite something given the size of China's population. It is also, of course, developing year by year uh um a an ever bigger um and better equipped um navy and

And army. And There were these um exercises around Taiwan, including a uh massive um Chinese um aircraft carrier Shandong or something. I mean could it be actually the case that that on this one thing a a focus on China that the Trump administration is right that for America

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