London Falling: Patrick Radden Keefe on How Money, Power and Corruption Shape Our City, with Emily Maitlis (Part Two)

Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Serenti. In this episode we return for part two of our recent live event with investigative journalist and author Patrick Radden Keefe. Keefe joined us at the Royal Geographical Society to discuss his new book, Glen and Falling, and how the unexplained death of one boy and his Family's Search for Answers revealed how money, crime and power shape modern London.

He was in conversation with award-winning journalist and presenter of the Newsagents podcast Emily Maitless. If you haven't heard part one, we recommend jumping back an episode to catch up. But now let's return to the conversation live at the Royal Geographical Society. We'll come back to the narrative, but I just want to talk a little bit about how you wrote this, because The sleuthing of Matthew in particular, but of both parents, seems to be fundamental to allowing you to have such incredible access to what was actually going on.

And they were doing it, it seems, contemporaneously after Zach disappeared. How did you work with them and how did you work with the people who didn't want to talk to you? Well, I mean, to just back up, I was living in London in the summer of 2023 when I heard this story from a friend of the Brettlers. And I was here for the summer. I was producing the uh TV drama Say Nothing based on my book.

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