Irshad Manji on Understanding Each Other in Turbulent Times

I mean, the simple pleasures of that dopamine hit cannot be denied. And I have certainly felt those dopamine hits and, you know, gotten shy off of them in my younger years. I don't think, Yasha, for me, it was a matter of just growing older. I actually I actually suffered mentally and physically.

My health dramatically declined as a result of my insistence on clinging to being right. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. My guest today is Irshad Manji. Irshat cut her tie in public discourse with a set of really contentious debates in which she upheld a liberal interpretation of Islam often under a lot of pressure and criticism.

She is an author who has written most recently the book Don't Label Me and she is the founder of the moral courage project. In all of his work, Irschad is emphasizing the importance of dialogue and civil discourse even in topics where there's very strong emotions on both sides, and even at a time of deep political polarization. In this conversation we talked about why Erchard chose to become a US citizen quite recently, why she continues to have faith in the American project even in troubled times.

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