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Intelligence Squared · 2026-02-02 · 36 min · 5,062 words

Julian Barnes in conversation with Ian McEwan (Part One)

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorenti. Today's episode is part one of our recent live event with novelist Julian Barnes. Barnes joined us at Union Chapel for a special evening in conversation with fellow novelist Ian McEwen to celebrate the publication of Departures. and to mark Julian Barnes' 80th birthday.

Departures follows two people who fall in love when they are young and again when they are old, and explores the passage of time, memory, mortality, and grief. Drawing on the novel, Barnes and McEwen reflected on literature, philosophy and art, and on how stories help us make sense of a life lived. Let's join our host, Ian McEwen, now with more. So Julian uh alone together at last. True actually.

This is the this is the first time we've ever performed on stage together. Yeah. Fifty years we've known one another. Fifty long years. Never a crossword.

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