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Intelligence Squared · 2025-02-26 · 33 min · 5,901 words

Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 1)

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Saranti. Today's episode is part one of our recent live event in London Smith Square Hall with Justin Webb. Web was joined in conversation by journalist and broadcaster Richard Shaw. to discuss how Donald Trump is reshaping the world order.

This conversation is coming to you in two parts. If you're an Intelligent Squared member, you can get access to the full conversation ad free. Head to intelligencesquared.com forward slash membership to find out more or hit the IQ2 extra button on Apple. Now here's our host, Richard Shaw. with more. Good evening, everyone. I'm Rithala Shar. Welcome to this Intelligence Squared uh debate, event, event, chat, I think. Debate, my goodness. No, no, no debate. Let me introduce Justin Webb. I don't think he needs much introduction. He's the presenter of BBC Radio Force Today programme. He was the BBC's North America editor for eight years, covering the nine eleven

Attacks and the election of President Obama. He regularly writes for the Times and is the host of the BBC's flagship America podcast. Americast. I think we've all listened to the first time. And he's the author of the memoir The Gift of Radio, My Childhood and Other Train Tri Wrecks. And that was published in twenty twenty two. Now Justin, I was trying to think of something sort of vaguely insightful to begin this conversation. Um basically I failed. Um all I can think about is Th a snow globe and the way in which we shake a snow globe and there are all those flakes sort of fluttering all over the place and you know there's something in there but you can't really see what. It feels a bit like that to me at the moment. Should we be surprised? You think of Starmer's visit. Whenever it is Thursday.

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