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Behavioral Grooves Podcast · 2025-03-17 · 63 min · 10,800 words

Work Isn’t Fair—Here’s How to Fix It | Iris Bohnet

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Welcome to Behavior Grooves, the podcast that explores our human condition. I'm Kurt Nelson. And I'm Tim Hulahan. We talk to researchers, authors, and practitioners to unlock the mysteries of our behavior using a behavioral science lens. Today we are sharing a conversation that I had with Iris Bonnet. A leading expert in the field of behavioral economics and decision making, and she's the co-author of a new book. Make work fair with Siri Chalazi. Yeah. And if you

Notice, Tim said. The conversation Ears and I had because I wasn't there. I had something come up at the last minute and we couldn't we didn't want to try to reschedule, so as a result

I missed it. And honestly, it's I'm I'm pretty bummed because I was really excited uh about this and and really sad that I missed it. Well, I was bummed too. I mean the Iris is just one of those rare people who sees the world with a very, very wide lens and her ideas are big and bold and I think you just would have loved being in on the conversation, Kurt. Uh her work has focused on how our minds create barriers to e uh to equality and what we can do to design fair systems. She's just rubbing it in. They're just making it worse, man. Yeah. All right. Okay. And well and and

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