Why Are Populists Winning? With Liam Byrne and Will Hutton
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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorenti. Populism has been winning big in recent years. It is the wave that has buoyed Donald Trump's second term in office, Maureen Le Pen's popularity in France, and Reform UK's recent leaps and bounds in British polling. Across the West,
Most authoritarian populists now govern one quarter of the world's democracies. But what explains the surge of populism across the democratic world? And can it be reversed? In this episode, political economist and former editor-in-chief of The Observer, Will Hutton, speaks with Labour MP Liam Byrne about his new book, Why Populists Are Winning and How to Beat Them.
Drawing on original polling, international reporting and interviews with leading thinkers, Byrne narrows down the meaning of populism, interrogates the funding, media ecosystems and language deployed by populist leaders, and the psyches of those who are persuaded to vote for them. Let's join Hutton now with more. Liam, I mean first off, I mean congratulations on your book. It's powerful, it's tough, it's illuminating, it's got original data, and it's brave for a practicing politician. There's not many people in the House of Commons who could who could uh write that or th of w or of which that could be said.
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