#1324 Marlene Zuk - Outsider Animals: Learning from the Creatures at the Margins of Our Lives
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to a new episode of The Decenter. I'm your host, as always, Ricard Lopes, and today I'm joined by Dr. Marlene Zuk. She is Regent's Professor Emerita of Ecology, Evolution and Behavior. In the College of Biological Sенs, at University of Minnesota. And today we're going to talk about her book outside анімалс. how the creatures at the margins of our lives have the most to teach. So Doctor Zook, welcome to the show. It's a big pleasure to everyone. Thanks so much for having me.
Okay, so let me start by asking you this to really get into the topic and uh for people to get uh an idea from the very start of what we're going to talk about here. So Uh what do you mean by the term outsider animals? I mean, what kinds of animals are you referring to with that term? Before I answer that, I should back up a little bit and say that I've I'm a biologist who works in animal behavior and I've I'm interested in the behavior of all kinds of animals. I'm also interested in the way people react to the animals they find in their lives, or maybe the animals that they have as pets. or maybe even just the animals that they hear about on nature programs and things like that.
Mm-hmm. The term outsider animals actually developed from a conversation I had with a journalist many years ago. And it reflected an interest in The animals that people run into
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