Jonathan Freedland on The Secret Rebels who Defied Hitler (Part Two)
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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Serenti. For this episode, we're rejoining for part two of our recent live event with Jonathan Friedland, the columnist, broadcaster, and former foreign correspondent. Friedland joined us live at the Kiln Theatre in London. He was in conversation with journalist and broadcaster.
Jenny Kleman, and he drew on his new book, The Traitor's Circle, to tell the extraordinary and largely forgotten story of the German rebels who risked everything to oppose Hitler from within his own state. If you haven't heard part one yet, we recommend jumping back an episode to get up to speed. But now let's return to the discussion live at the Kiln Theatre in London. Let's talk a bit about that blue blood. I mean, not everybody has blood as as blue as Maria's, but
To what extent do you think that was a factor in all of this, the privilege that all of these characters had? Did it make what they, the risks that they took, did it make it more extraordinary, or was it less of a of a leap for them to feel that they could do exceptional things? So interesting. I think it is a is both, because on the one hand it absolutely confirms that this was so needless for them. These were people who would have been
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