Are you morally ambitious? With Rutger Bregman (Part Two)

Welcome to Intelligence Squared. I'm producer Mia Serenti. Today's episode is part two of our conversation with historian and author Rucker Bregman. If you missed part one, we recommend going back an episode to hear Bregman lay out his vision for how moral ambition can drive real change. Let's return now to the conversation with our host, Tim Harford.

Tell us a bit more about the School for Moral Ambition. Because you just just drop that little bombshell in that you're quitting as an author, at least for the moment. So so so where is it? How does it work? What what are you what are you doing?

Yeah, so we got started last year in uh Europe, continental Europe. We've got our offices in Amsterdam and um what we try to build is a magnet for our for really ambitious people. We think that the most ambitious driven people should work on the most pressing global problems. And sadly that's currently not the case. A good friend of mine, he studied at Oxford, he always talks about the Bermuda triangle of talent.

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