513: Be Big in the Little Things. Lessons from a Hero. With Ryan Manion

This is Jocko podcast number 513 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. One day, before Travis was set to head back out with the Marines to serve in Iraq, he went with his friends to a football game to watch his favorite team, the Philadelphia Eagles, play and create fun memories. The Eagles won, and Travis and his friends were pumped.

But they were also sad because he would soon be leaving. The country. One of them jokingly grabbed Travis. How about we keep you from going back to Iraq so you can stay here and have fun with all of us instead? Travis knew his friend was just kidding around and wanted him to stay in Philadelphia where it was safe.

But Travis also knew that he had to face the dangers of war because protecting America's freedom was the most important thing he believed he could do to help his country. Travis became very serious. He knew that staying behind would leave his team without his experience, and if another Marine replaced him, that Marine might not have the same level of training that he had. Travis took his duty very seriously. He turned to his friend and said five simple words.

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